Found: DNA Match for 12 Alleles

We have one match from familytreedna for the Henwood Ydna test.

Surprisingly, the fellow is a Hopwood. This surname is so close to Henwood, that it makes one wonder about the development of the surnames. Hopefully we will hear from him after sending an email today and might find out how these two lines connect.

They have a 91.41% of sharing a common ancestor if they go back about 600 years. Since Henwood fits the bill of the Atlantic Model Haplotype, we find that this is a very popular line.

Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype

Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype

from Family Tree DNA

Your DNA signature for your Surname "Henwood" is 1 point away from the Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype the most common Y-DNA signature of Europe’s most common Haplogroup, R1b1b2. Simply put your ancestors have experienced a dramatic population explosion over the past 10,000 years, probably since the end of the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM-that’s Anthropology-speak for the last Ice Age) that covered most of Europe beginning 20,000 years ago and lasting for 10,000 long cold winters.R1b, and its most common Haplotypes (yours), exists in high or very high frequencies in all of Western Europe from Spain in the south to the British Isles and western Scandinavia in the north. It appears that approximately 1.25 % of Western European males share this strikingly common genetic 12 marker signature and because of its very high frequency we always suggest that for genealogy purposes people in this group should only use our 25 or 37 marker test for their genealogy.Anthropologists have been describing for many years that only a select % of all the males in past societies did the vast majority of fathering, while other males lost the opportunity to pass on their Y-Chromosomal genes.On a lighter note it is clear that R1b’s Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype has contributed much more than its ‘fair share’ in populating Western Europe.

Henwoods on Facebook

There are over 500 Henwoods listed on Facebook. It would be interesting if they were all related. Being that there is a village in Cornwall, England called "Henwood", it could be that the citizens took on the name as their surname. They could have started as a family unit that became a tribal unit, and then a village with some unrelated people living there that also took the surname. DNA would answer that question.



Think of how many Henwoods there are that are not on facebook. It's quite a popular name.
There are 3,687,503 entries of Henwood on www.ancestry.com. I see that Henwood has been in the USA for a long time, even back in Indian wars.

Move over, Smith and Jones. Henwood is a popular name, also.

Reference: Facebook, www.ancestry.com

We Fit Atlantic Modal Haplotype

DYS markers 19, 389-1, 389-2, 391, 392 and 393 are the definition of the Atlantic Modal Haplotype, except for ourDYS 390 which is 23 instead of the 24. Most of the people in the Sinclair project fall within a one-step mutation of these markers. Note that this chart shows DYS390=24. This is precisely on the AMH, but the folks who found this Haplogroup decided to allow someone to be off by one or two markers and still say they're part of the AMH. Those days are numbered as there are so many SNPs now being found downstream of this Haplogroup.
When you couple our DYS390 values with other particular markers, we can compare ourselves to some interesting studies that have been conducted throughout Europe. Our DYS19 values are overwhelmingly 14 with a few 13's and 15's. Our DYS392 values are overwhelmingly 13's with a few interesting 11's and 14's. These are all quite deviant from the AMH norm, but are still classified as R1b.

Our Henwood DYS 19=14
DYS 389-1=13
DYS 389-2=29
DYS 390=23 instead of 24.
DYS 391=11
DYS 392=13
DYS 393=13

DYS 390 may show that this line came from original people of Britain, the Celtic natives, but more likely it is showing they came from Anglo Saxons and Danes in Denmark. Also they could have come from the northern coast of the Netherlands or Western and Northern Germany.

Resource: http://www.stclairresearch.com/content/lineagesDYS390-23.html

Dutch Jews with R1b1b2

Dutch Sephardic Jews with R1b1b2 haplogroup - DNA Forums - Bennett Greenspan (of FTDNA) said that there was a small population of Dutch Sephardi from the R1b1b2 haplogroup.

I had wondered if Henwood could be one of these people, but I need to have a much deeper test done to find out. Hen is a surname with Sephardic Jews in Spain. Wood was a surname found in Holland. In the Spanish tradition, surnames are combined when marriage takes place for the female. Thus, Henwood could be created from two families.

R1b1b2 to Ireland

20,000-30,000 years ago the most prevalent subclade was R1b .
18,000 years ago Europe was covered with ice from the last ice age.
Humans moved down south to Portugal and Spain.
About 14,000 -10,000 years ago they moved from Spain to England and Ireland.

Resource: http://www.ward.id.au/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51:haplogroup-r1b1b2&catid=35:history&Itemid=58

Test Results of DNA In

The test results of dna have arrived. This Henwood line is an R1b1b2 haplogroup.
The test was only on 12 alleles, but so far we have no matches to warrent going further at this point.

DYS 393 was the usual 13. The interesting thing is that our Robinson line of Mildred E. Robinson, grandmother of the Henwood tested, was also R1b1b2. However, they had a DYS 393 of 12, which is very rare. This is the first allele tested on the familytreedna test. The 2nd allele, DYS 390 on Henwood was a 23 whereas on our Robinson it was 21. Otherwise, the rest of the alleles were exactly the same. Robinson's history was that they came over not on the Mayflower but the next ship. Where I thought they came from England, it's looking more like Ireland all the time, or possibly even Wales.

Several others on my list were also found to be R1b1b2, and very close to this Henwood.

As to finding matches in the world, an interesting but expected result was as follows.
1. 376 matches were from England out of 19,456 tested. This is a 1.9%. This Henwood's grandparents were both from England. A surprise is that 9 matches were from Belgium out of 429 making it a 2.1%. Denmark had 12 matches out of 684 with a 1.8%. Germany had 166 out of 9,824 with 1.7%. The Netherlands had 29 matches out of 1,364 with a 2.1%. (My initial theory was that a Hen had married a Wood that was in the Netherlands. Then I had found the Henwood Village in Cornwall, England, but this line seems to not be from that group. )

Now we'll sit back and see if any further matches come up through familytreedna. We'll be notified. I'm hoping that some Henwoods will get involved and get tested.

Birth Certificate of Henry Henwood b: 1827 England

Valerie, researcher in England of the surname Henwood and others, checked out Henry Henwood's information first before sending for a birth certificate.
"I didn't apply for it straightaway as I did some census and other records checks to make sure this would be the right Charles, so once I was satisfied I applied, afraid it is just a case of waiting now"
I'm so glad she did. I could have been running up a dead end. I just hope they can find the certificate being it's so old. He was born in 1827 in Hartley Wintney, /Basingstoke, Hampshire, England. The man died December 1914 in the same location. I wonder if this wasn't the start of the flu epidemic.

Resource: From Valerie: visit my website at http://www.tangledwoodresearch.co.uk

Surrey-London, England Births and Baptisms 1813-1906

Surrey is the county next door to Hampshire. This is where I found Charles Ernest and his father, Charles.

1. William and Ann Henwood were the parents of:
a. William Henwood baptised on 22 Oct 1815 in Saint Mary, Staines, Surrey, England
b. Lucy Henwood 9 Jun 1816
c. Edward Henwood 13 Feb 1820
d. Ann Henwood 3 Aug 1823
e. Elizabeth Henwood 10 Dec 1826
f. Eliza Henwood 11 May 1828
g. Emma Henwood 22 May 1831

2. Eliza Henwood was listed as the mother without a man's name listed.
a. Elizabeth Henwood 25 Dec 1848

3. John and Sarah Henwood were parents of:
a. John Henwood 22 Jan 1869

4. Christopher and Fanny Henwood were parents of:
a. Christopher Charles Henwood 3 Mar 1875

5. John and Martha Henwood were parents of:
a. Sarah Ann Henwood 1 Aug 1875
b. Catherine Lizzie Henwood 2 Dec 1877
c. George Henwood 13 June 1880
d. John William Henwood 13 May 1883
e. Charlotte Henwood 15 May 1886
f. Mary Ann Henwood 17 Feb 1889

6. Henry William and Agnes Henwood were parents of:
a. Henry John Henwood 14 Jul 1895

7. Henry William and Amelia Agnes Henwood were parents of;
a. Amelia Agnes Henwood 9 May 1897
b. Ernest William Henwood 7 Jan 1900 in All Saints, Laleham, Surrey
c. Beryl Frances Henwood 18 Apr 1902

8. Walter Sidney and Alice Henwood were parents of:
a. Alice Hope Henwood 14 Oct 1909

9. William and Susan Henwood were parents of :
a. Caroline Charlotte Henwood 5 Nov 1813 in Saint Mary At Lambeth, Lambeth

10. Richard and Penelope Henwood were parents of:
a. Charles Henwood 26 Sept 1813 in Saint Margaret, Uxbridge, Hillingdon

11. John and Elizabeth Henwood were parents of:
a. John Henwood 31 Oct 1813 in Saint George, Bloomsbury, Camden

12. Edward and Jane Henwood were parents of:
a. John Henwood 21 Aug 1814 at St. Katherine by the Tower in London
b. Celia Henwood 25 Aug 1816

1600's Black Plague- Up to 1763, Ages Permitted to Marry

Until 1763, you only had to be 12 (girls) or 14 (boys) to marry in London? That 20% of London’s population was killed by a second Black Plague in the 1600s? That during the first year of WWI, marriages in London increased by 32%?

Resource: www.ancestry.com

Henwoods from Surrey County, England

Since our Charles Ernest and his father, Charles were born in Surrey County, which is right next door to Hampshire County, I thought I'd take a look at who was from there. I did find a family and it could have been related to our Henwoods.

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about George Henwood
Name:
George Henwood
Birth Place:
Wimbledon and residence was Wimbledon as well as enlistment.
Death Date:
5 Aug 1918
Rank: Rifleman in the Rifle Brigade (The Prince Consort's Own)
Battalion: 13th, number S/33622
Type of Casualty: died of wounds
1891 England Census about Bertie Henwood
Name:
Bertie Henwood
Age:
54? probably 14, not 54
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Leonssa
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England in Civil parish: Wimbledon, same for Ecclesiastical parish and town
Surrey, England
County/Island: Surrey, England
1891 Census covering a George and a Bertie Henwood in Surrey:
Joseph Henwood, contractor
44
Leonssa Henwood
40
Walter Henwood
15
Edith Henwood
13
George Henwood
11
Bertie Henwood
54/? more likely 14.
Joseph Henwood
6
Ada Henwood
4
Minne Henwood
2

Tribal Britain in First Century in Hampshire County

Atrebates

This is another British tribe that shares a name with a tribe in pre-Roman France. They were the second most powerful group in southern Britain at the time of the Roman Conquest, they issued and used coins, and had many contacts with France.
They probably consisted of a group of tribes ruled by a single dynasty, their territory originally stretched from what is today West Sussex, Hampshire and Berkshire.

From about 15 BC, the Atrebates seem to have established friendly relations with Rome, and it was an appeal for help from the last Atrebatic king, Verica, which provided Claudius with the pretext for the invasion on Britain in AD 43. After the Roman Conquest, the territory of the Atrebates was divided up, with Silchester (Calleva Atrebatum) becoming the capital of a Roman civitas that administered the area of modern Berkshire, Oxfordshire, Surrey and north Hampshire.
The name Atrebates means 'settlers' or 'inhabitants'.
Reference: BBC History

Bluehenge Find from 5,000 Years Ago Near Hampshire

Stonehenge is only 90 miles west of London in the county of Wiltshire which is next door to our Hampshire County. Now archaeologists have found a "Bluehenge" which is only 80 miles SW from London and about a mile away from Stonehenge. This dates back 5,000 years and was another circle formation with stones. It is believed it was part of the rituals of life and death. The stones have now disappeared over the centuries but the indentations remain from 27 stones.
Since it's fairly close to Hampshire County where I have found many Henwoods, it makes me wonder just how long the ancestors have inhabited the area. This circle would date back to about 3,000 BCE.

I might mention that through dna we find that haplogroup P came from the Middle East and out of P arose Q and R. There are many R's in England and I'm betting that Henwood is some sort of R, too. Now we'll have to figure out just when they entered Britain and who was here before them if anyone.

Going way back, what were the people like there? We can, however, say that biologically they were part of the Caucasoid population of Europe. The regional physical stereotypes familiar to us today, a pattern widely thought to result from the post-Roman Anglo-Saxon and Viking invasions - red-headed people in Scotland, small, dark-haired folk in Wales and lanky blondes in southern England - already existed in Roman times. Insofar as they represent reality, they perhaps attest the post-Ice Age peopling of Britain, or the first farmers of 6,000 years ago.

The Neolithic and Bronze Age goes back to 834 BCE. The Iron Age started about 728 BCE. Finally the Romans entered Britain in 49 ACE. So Stonehenge and Bluehenge occurred in the middle of the Iron Age.

Resource: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091003/ap_on_sc/eu_britain_stonehenge_3
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/british_prehistory/peoples_02.shtml