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Sunday, April 3, 2022

Charles Henwood's Wife, Queenie Disney, Possible Line Of WALT DISNEY of HOLLYWOOD

 Nadene Goldfoot                                             

                            Charles Ernest Henwood   and Dorothy "Queenie" 
Henwood nee Disney, born in England.  They were the parents of my husband, Dr. Wesley Charles Henwood, born in Sumner, Washington, USA, and  Charles and Dorothy are the grandparents of my 2 children and ggrandparents of my grandson.  They were both adventurers, eager to move on.    Charles had lived in Australia, and so had Dorothy, both separately.  They met and married in New Zealand and had 2 children.  Before they came to the USA, they lived in Vancouver, Canada.  They died in California. Dorothy-Queenie died at age 97 years 2 months 6 days, and Charles at 87 years, 7 months 4 days. They gave up a lot to the education of their son, Wes, who became a radiologist. Wes was a graduate of Reed College of Portland, Oregon, then went on to U of Washington Med School in Seattle,  He was also a Lt. Col in the National Guard.  He died of a heart attack in Honduras.  I remember that Dorothy recalled all the names of her brothers and sisters, and her parents' names.  I was amazed; my first meeting with someone with such a large family of 12 children.                         

My mother-in-law, Dorothy "Queenie Henwood nee Disney, told me that they were related to Walt Disney, creator of Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, but I hadn't been able to go back far enough.  Today I accidently stumbled onto Walt's genealogy and sure enough, they both ended up with the same ancestor.  Queenie was right. That was my first try years ago.  Then, I realized I had been working with a brick wall error, so I haven't arrived at the end with the common ancestor yet. 

My first mistake was in using James Alfred Cooper and his wife, instead of the correct Alfred James Disney.   Elizabeth Disney's first son was Alfred James Cooper -Disney born September 22, 1856. My error was in thinking he was also a Disney.  I thought his wife was Laura Victoria Whitehead, the correct mother of Queenie Disney.  Queenie Disney was their 10th child. I thought Queenie's Disney line had been adopted from this Elizabeth female, possibly.                                                    

Queenie Disney, wife of Charles Henwood, both of England, was from a family of 12 children, and she was number 10.  I was amazed.  She was born on December 25, 1899 in Essex, England.  Her father was Alfred James Cooper- Disney and mother was Laura Victoria Whitehead, both of Suffolk, England. Laura Whitehead was correctly her mother but  James Alfred Cooper was not her father. There was the Alfred James Disney that I hadn't found.  He was from Battisfort/Little Finborough, Suffolk, England.      

Alfred James Disney was the son of James Alfred Cooper-I thought.  Here's where I was slightly confused.  He married Elizabeth  Disney, born 1833 in Suffolk, England. (As it turns out, Elizabeth'f father is our John Designy Disney.  It's from here that Queenie can claim the relation to Walt Disney, but first I need to verify that she was really a Disney, and so far, I haven't.   Here, all the children took the surname of their mother's maiden name, Disney. at least I think they did.  I was so wrong.  


It all turned out to be my error.  Reworking the tree now in 2022, I have found an Alfred James Disney b: 1856 in Battisfort, Suffolk, England of the same age as the James Alfred Cooper. On the 1881 census, Laura was 18 and Alfred was 24.  They were already parents of Alice, age 2 and Frederick, 9 months.   I'm reworking, find that his father was John of Somerset, Chipstable, England and Mary Disney nee Curry of the same town, leading me down some other Disneys.  His father is also a John Disney and wife Elizabeth Paul, both of Somerset.  Now I've hit the brick wall in trying to find this John Disney's parents. I've found one more; Thomas.                                   

This line needs to be going back also to Mechisodech Disnie,    I checked my 2 children who have had DNA testing at FTDNA.  They had DNA matches with many Cooper people but no Disney.  This makes me think that something was amiss with the Cooper causing them to adopt Disney as a surname. This was not the case.  As it turns out, because I had started the search many years ago, it's possible that Alfred James Disney hadn't been discovered yet by ancestry.com, or I just hadn't noticed it as yet in their files.  Instead, up came James Alfred Cooper, also of the same area in England.                                                         


 
Getting back to the wrong line I had chased, Elizabeth's father was William Disney, Sr. born in 1797 in Suffolk, England.  Her mother was Sarah Balls.  They had 8 children. Elizabeth was # 5.  William and his family were on the 1841 and 1851 English census.  

William's father was Edward Disney III b: 1760 in Suffolk, England.  Here's another brick wall.  I had 3 Edward Disneys. This one was married to Sarah Douce.   

Edward's father was also Edward Disney II b: 1717 in Suffolk, England.  He married Sarah Welham on June 3, 1746.  This had been an easier line to follow.  Too bad it's the wrong line.                                                  

 Edward's father was another EDWARD DISNEY I, so I shall now label them as I, II and III. born 1689 in Suffolk, England.  He married  Elizabeth Lingwood.on March 4, 1714/15. Edward was their 3rd child.  

Edward I's father was Mechisodech Disnie b: 1660 Suffolk, England  Both lines meet here with this person.  He was married to Mary Snowden.  Walt Disney also ended up with Mechisodech Disnie as well.  He had to have been the common ancestor of all the Disneys.  I've hit another brick wall.

The line goes from Alfred James Disney b: 1856 and wife Laura Victoria Whitehead back to John Disney 1827 and Mary Curry in Somerset Chipstable, England; to John Designy Disney 1799 and Elizabeth Paul, same place, to Thomas Designy  Disney 1771.  and Mary Vickery, both of Somerset.    Information has not been forthcoming.  This is the best I've been able to do far away from England, using the web.      

Walt Elias Disney was born in 1901 in Chicago, Illinois. He married Lillian Marie Bounds on July 13, 1925.  They had 2 daughters, Diane and Sharon.  Walt died in Burbank, Hollywood, California.  

Walt's father was Elias Charles Disney b: 1859 in Ontario, Canada.  He died in Hollywood, California.   He was married to Flora Call. 

Elias's father was Kepple Elias Disney b: 1832 in Ireland.  He was married to Mary Jane Richardson.  

Kepple's father was Arundel Elias Disney b: 1801 in Ireland.  He was married to Maria Swan.  

Arundel's father was Kepple Disney b: 1776 in Ireland.  He was married to Frances Best.  

Kepple's father was Robert Disney b: 1746 and mother was Mary Kepple.  

Robert Disney's father was Richard Disney b: 1714.  He married Mary Bourdon.                           

Richard's father was EDWARD DISNEY, I b: 1689.  He was married to Elizabeth Lingwood.       

 EDWARD I's father was Mechisodech Disnie, born in 1660, in Suffolk, England.  He was married to Mary Snowden. 


 
Some of the people I had wrongly discovered turned out to be on Walt Disney's line.  
PS, Alfred James Disney was born on December 28, 1856
      Alfred James Cooper was born on September 22, 1856.
Both were born in Battisfort, Suffolk, England.  


Sunday, September 6, 2009

Henwood Name: Where From?


Our Henwood family comes from England. I've just traced the family back to a
Henry Henwood born in 1827 in Basingstoke, Hampshire, Harley Wintney, England. He was married to Sarah Unknown, also born in 1827. Harley Wintney seems to be the center of our family Henwoods.

Now a present day Henwood from this line is doing a dna test with Family Tree dna so we will know more about the origins. The results will be out in about two months.

HEN: In the book, Finding Our Fathers-a guidebook to Jewish Genealogy by Dan Rottenberg, the name Hen is listed. The reference says it is related to GRACIAN.
Under Gracian, it says: It was a prominent Spanish family descended from Judah ben Barzilai. Members lived chiefly at Barcelona from the 13th through 16th centuries. Most used the name
HEN. The Jewish Encyclopedia has 14 biographies. The name is related to NASI and TRABOT.

WOOD: This surname is related to HAYS. This was a Dutch family that emigrated to America in the early 18th century. Jewish Encyclopedia has a family tree and many biographies. They also refer to the records of Myers, Hays and Mordecai Families from 1707 to 1913. They are related to WOOD, and other names.

I'm wondering if a Hen couldn't have married a Wood and they connected the surnames such as the Spanish people do. The female doesn't drop her name but adds hers onto his.

Or, was there a sign on their home or village made of a wooden hen for identification purposes? DNA will soon tell us more. Until then, on with a paper trail and regular genealogy findings.

On familytreedna, I have joined the group of people ending with the name "Wood". We'll see if there is a connection somehow. So far, there was no Henwood group, though I know the world abounds with living Henwoods. I urge them to join the dna testing.
Post Script: September 10, 2009 at 8:56pm
A name ending with Wood might be telling us this is a geographic location of where the original people lived. the surname "Atwood" is from the Saxon "atte Wood" or at the wood.
In the 13th century most men and women in England shared the same few given names. Brian M. Scott, researcher of names, listed 21 manor held by the Abbey of Bee which showed that one of every seven men was named William and that the five most common names were:
William, Richard, John, Robert, and Hugo. They were used by 45% of the men listed.
The top 10 names accounted for 70% of the men listed.
Women's names were also common. The top six were:
Matilda, Alice, Agnes, Edith and Emma. Matilda was the most common and used by one out of six women. The top 12 were used by about 70% of the women listed.
Later surnames were needed and used and were often depicted graphically because of the high rate of illiteracy. Perhaps the first Henwoods had a wooden hen outside their home.
from ancestry.com:English: habitational name from any of various places so named, as for example Henwood in Cornwall, in Linkinhorne parish, which is named from Old English henn ‘hen’, ‘wild bird’ + wudu ‘wood’, or Hen Wood in Wootton, Oxfordshire (formerly in Berkshire), which is named from Old English hiwan ‘religious community’ (genitive plural higna) + wudu.
PPSS 9/14/09:
henfield in sussex has the following meaning nothing to do with birds or hens!
Henfield W. Sussex. Hanefeld 770, Hamfelde 1086 (DB). Probably ‘open land characterized by stones or rocks’. OE hān + feld.best wishes Gordon Lawrie in England